Sunday 11 May 2008

DOLMAN WILLS

Hi Andy. I have been a bit quiet lately but here are some more -Thomas Dolman gunmaker is probably one of our Sussex Dolman/Dollmans line and may be related to Walter as well-only link is time frame and St Dunstans and name Walter which is also common to Sussex. William is the father of Frederick William and there are references to a FWD, solicitor and I don’t think this is one is our Sussex family.

I wish I could connect up the early Sussex/Kent Dolmans to our family. I think they may have started off as officials at the Cinque port of Breznet - Romney- New Romney-Pevensey etc in mid 14 century but originally were connected to the Shirynton family- Walter was the Chancellor of Lancaster and was at Agincourt before that with Humphrey Duke of Gloucester. Waulter Dolman was executor for his brother Robert Sh as well. He refers to the Shiryngtons as cousins and his aunt. Which Dolman family do you think came first? It is too obvious to say Pocklingtons D's as they are the only ones to have had early records taken.

Penny Dolman


Public Record Office- The National Archives
Cat Ref: Prob 11/1697: Image Ref: 371

William Dolman of 30 Foley Place. MDX

I William Dolman of 30 Foley Place in the County of Middlesex being of sound mind do declare this to be my last Will and Testament and revoking all others give to my wife Anna Maria Dolman all the real and personal property I shall be possessed of or become entitled to of every description whatsoever I also appoint my wife Anna Maria Dolman my sole Executrix and that no misrepresentation be put. I again repeat that it is my Will that the property of any description I possess becomes my wife’s as aforesaid at my decease and that nothing should operate to the contrary, As Witness my hand and Seal this 30 Day of December 1820 signed……….. Witnesses to the Signature of the said William Dolman, the day and year above written signed Edward Feltham, W. Tenallboneis T. Wain, W. Moyses

Proved at London the 6th November 1824 before the Worshipful John ? Tanboury Doctors of Laws and Surrogate by the oath of Anna Maria Dolman widow the relict the sole executrix to whom Admin was granted having been first sworn fully to administer

IGI no help re marriage for Anna Maria but after finding Old Bailey records.

IGI for William and Maria Dolman shows marriage of Maria Jamieson 29 Jan 1812 at St Mary Marylebone Rd and birth of Caroline 23 May 1813 and Bapt 27 May Lying in Hospital Endell St Holborn and Frederick William Dolman 9 July , Bapt 18 December 1815 at St Mary Marylebone Rd

See Old Bailey Online
13 September 1816
Eliza Day alias Dee was indicted for feloniously stealing on 6th September many items from the property of William Dollman in his dwelling House 30 Foley Place Cavendish Square. William Dollman mentions that the prisoner Day lived with me as a servant from March and also helped with his wife’s confinement. His wife Maria was also called and gave her statement.

Check 1841 Census for children
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Public Record Office-The National Archives
Cat Ref: Prob 11/345 Image Ref: 328

Walter Dolman of Stebenheath in Stepney -1673

Memorandum that on or about the one and twentieth Day of September last past in the year of our Lord God One Thousand Six Hundred Seventy three Walter Dolman which he loved, of the Parish of Steben heath at Stepney in the County of Mdd Clothier deceased later being then of sound mind and memory and having a desire to dispose of his personal estate did ( being about two days before his death) declare his last will nuncupative or by word of mouth in the words following as to the like effect that is to say I give to my wife Elizabeth Dolman all my whole estate whatsoever leaving only twelve pence to my eldest daughter ( whose name and self deponent understands is Ann Dolman) And then one of the deponents vixt William Witherd asking him the said Walter Dolman the reason why he would give his said eldest daughter but twelve pence he replyed because his eldest daughter would have more by and after his decease than his wife and all other his children beside All which words or the like in effect the said Walter Dolman spake previously and with a purposed intention that the same should stand for and be his last Will and Testament nuncupative in the presence and hearing of divers credible witness among which were William Witherd and Nicolas Harrison. Their signatures

Steben heath is also reference to St Dunstans Stepney

THE IGI is no help as no children to Walter and Elizabeth in time frame. Only marriage in time frame is Walter to Elizabeth Greene 25 April 1667 Pen Staffordshire but as this is only 7 years later it is unlikely he would know his daughter Ann would be better off etc.
Best to check records of St Dunstan Stepney

British Origins: London apprentices.
Walter son of Walter London gentleman to John Russell 27 June 1673 Ironmongers Company. Is a possible connection.

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The Public Record Office-The National Archives
Cat Ref: Prob 11/715

Thomas Dolman Citizen and Gunmaker of London
In the Name of God Amen
The thirtieth Day of Mary 1738 , I Thomas Dolman Citizen and Gunmaker of London being weak and in Great pain of Body but sound and disposing of mind and memory Thanks be to God, therefore do make and declare this my last Will and Testament in manner following Imprimus I will that all my Debts and Funeral Charges are first fully paid and satisfied Item all the rest residue and remainder of my personal Estate Goods Chattells Effects and Debts, whatsoever and wheresoever that shall of right appertain unto me at the time of my decease I give and bequeath unto my loving wife Mary Dolman upon this special trust and confident in her repose (?) that she my said Wife will take care to see my two dear children are virtuously and religiously educated and brought up according to the best of her will and capacity And I do hereby nominate and appoint my said loving wife full and sole executrix of this my last will and Testament. In witness whereby I have hereunto sett my hand and seal the day and year first above written. Thos Dolman…Sealed and Declared in the presence of James Davison, Jos Avery

This will was proved at London before the Worshipful Robert Chapman Doctor of Laws Surrogate of the Right Worshipful John Bottsworth Doctor of Laws Master Keeper or Commissary of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury lawfully constituted the Eleventh day of January in the year of our Lord1741 by the oath of Mary Dolman Widow the Relict of the Deceased and Sole Executrix in the said Will named to whom Administration was granted of all and singular the goods Chattells and Creditts of the said deceased being first sworn duly to administer

Possible children Mary, Sarah and Ann at St Botolph Bishopsgate London with others deceased
Check Church film if this your family...May be a second marriage

British Origins: London Apprentices: not proven to be this Thomas
1687: Thomas son of John, St Botolph Bishopsgate, weaver to William Gibson 1687 Gunmakers Company

1728: Scarratt Thomas Hildersley son of Michael St Botolph Bishopsgate MDX cordwainer to Thomas Doleman 11 Jan 1727/8 Gunmakers Company

Records of St Dunstan need to be checked as online IGI not comprehensive:
Thomas Dolman bapt 12 Nov 1675 aged 1 to John and Elizabeth at St Dunstan
Thomas Dolman bapt 6 July 1679 age 1 to John and Elizabeth at St Dunstant
Robert Dolman bapt 23 February 1673 St Dunstan
Also
To John and Elizabeth St Dunstan
Jonothan 5 May 1657 age 1
Edward 7 Jan 1655 *
This is most probably the start of the Sussex line of Dollmans although there are many Dolman/Doleman/Dollmans in Sussex hundred of years prior but not yet connected up.