Monday, 4 February 2008

DOLMANS IN THE NETHERLANDS



There is a Dutch Dolmans (with "s") family from Maastricht (Netherlands), going back to 1400, and before that Bree (Belgium). The genealogy is published in "Dolmans, Genealogie en Familiegeschiedenis", by J.H.M. Moers, 2003, but only in Dutch. It is pretty exhaustive and has a lot of data on early history as well as early documents and
pictures of houses, etc. The family declined in the 1600's after the seige of Maastricht. I have had mtDNA tests done by "FamilytreeDNA" (Haplogroup H). I would be interested to compare, since there is a - not very credible - story that we would originally have come from England (Hampshire). If it's any lead: Coat of arms is (1) three red
lions rampant on gold, (2) three silver roses on red, (3) four golden hammers on blue, and (4) a green oakbranch on silver.

The Hampshire story may be a misreading of an mediaeval document (the author of the family history
book suggests the text in fact refers to Ham-sur-Heure, a place in South Belgium).
Interesting you thought you linked to the Dutch family. When? If anyone has a question on an individual who might be Dutch, please let me know and I can check.

As far as we know, there is only one Dolmans family in the Netherlands, and we are all related, and all lived in and around Maastricht (from 1400-1700). Before 1400 they were in Bree, St. Truiden and Tongerloo in Belgium. We have a few files from the mid 1300's, from people who would be of a level to leave records (aldermen etc) but unfortunately, the archives of Bree burned when the Germans moved through in 1914, so we doubt we will find much earlier. But I am told there may be things in the Brussels archives.

Maurits Dolmans


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5 comments:

Alicia McFerran said...

Hi My great grandmother was Petronella Johanna Dolmans and she was born in Sittard. The netherlands. Her Father was Antonius Gerard Dolmans and he was born in Maarsen in 1847. Can you possibly tell me where I nmight look to find history on the Dolmans family. I will be grateful.
Thankyou,
Alicia McFerran

Andy Dolman said...

Hi Alicia,
If you email me at dolman.andy@hotmail.co.uk
I'll pass you're email on to a couple of people in the Netherlands who have done some research into the Dutch Dolmans.
Andy Dolman

Maurits said...

They are in the book:

Petronella Johanna Dolmans b 1879 Sittard married Jacobus Wilhelmus Toonen, in 1902 (p. 470 with photograph on p. 471).

Her father Anthonius Gerard b Maarssen 1847 married Elisabeth Vollebregt in 1878 (p. 459). The line then moves down in time as follows:

Adrianus Dolmans b 1812 Maarssen (p. 448 my brother has his oil portrait copied on p. 448) x Petronella van der Linden 1836 and x Maria Wenting 1851;

Jacobus Dolmans (p. 442) b. Nieuw-Maarsseveen 1769 x Johanna van der Vliet 1793 and x Antonia van Dijk 1812;

Mattheus Dolmans b Utrecht 1735 (p. 428) x 1768 Sybilla Weymans;

Jacobus Johannes Dolmans b Wyck (Maastricht) 1708;

Mattheus Dolmans b Maastricht 1659 x 1692 Elisabeth Dolmans and x 1703 Maria Fremmen (p. 417);

Christianus Peter Dolmans b Limmel near Maastricht 1628 x Johanna Banens 1653 (p. 53, they are still supposed to say an annual mass in Limmel church for their salvation);

Matthias Dolmans b Limmel near Maastricht 1583 x 1626 Maria Schugens (p. 47, also to be prayed for in eternity);

Peter Dolmans op den Beck b Maastricht 1562 (p. 41) x 1582 Elisabeth Jamaer van Aust x 1626 Marie le Quier;

Willem Dolmans b 1510 Maastricht (p. 31) x 1544 Mabilien in den Trepoel x 1555 Heylken Nullens x 1563 Elisabeth van Walbrecht van Genhout;

Willem Doelmans te Lenculen junior b 1450 Maastricht x 1474 Katharina Hamakers x 1504 Marij Capoens;

Willem Doelmans te Lenculen senior b Maastricht 1420 (p. 23) x 1430 Catharina van Thoeren;

Jan Doelmans prob b Bree abt 1400;

prob Willem Doelmans b Bree-Tongerloo abt 1380

before this, records are burned. Pity.

Maurits said...

They are in the book:

Petronella Johanna Dolmans b 1879 Sittard married Jacobus Wilhelmus Toonen, in 1902 (p. 470 with photograph on p. 471).

Her father Anthonius Gerard b Maarssen 1847 married Elisabeth Vollebregt in 1878 (p. 459). The line then moves down in time as follows:

Adrianus Dolmans b 1812 Maarssen (p. 448 my brother has his oil portrait copied on p. 448) x Petronella van der Linden 1836 and x Maria Wenting 1851;

Jacobus Dolmans (p. 442) b. Nieuw-Maarsseveen 1769 x Johanna van der Vliet 1793 and x Antonia van Dijk 1812;

Mattheus Dolmans b Utrecht 1735 (p. 428) x 1768 Sybilla Weymans;

Jacobus Johannes Dolmans b Wyck (Maastricht) 1708;

Mattheus Dolmans b Maastricht 1659 x 1692 Elisabeth Dolmans and x 1703 Maria Fremmen (p. 417);

Christianus Peter Dolmans b Limmel near Maastricht 1628 x Johanna Banens 1653 (p. 53, they are still supposed to say an annual mass in Limmel church for their salvation);

Matthias Dolmans b Limmel near Maastricht 1583 x 1626 Maria Schugens (p. 47, also to be prayed for in eternity);

Peter Dolmans op den Beck b Maastricht 1562 (p. 41) x 1582 Elisabeth Jamaer van Aust x 1626 Marie le Quier;

Willem Dolmans b 1510 Maastricht (p. 31) x 1544 Mabilien in den Trepoel x 1555 Heylken Nullens x 1563 Elisabeth van Walbrecht van Genhout;

Willem Doelmans te Lenculen junior b 1450 Maastricht x 1474 Katharina Hamakers x 1504 Marij Capoens;

Willem Doelmans te Lenculen senior b Maastricht 1420 (p. 23) x 1430 Catharina van Thoeren;

Jan Doelmans prob b Bree abt 1400;

prob Willem Doelmans b Bree-Tongerloo abt 1380

before this, records are burned. Pity.

Andy Dolman said...

I think this is what you would call a result. Thanks Maurits
Andy