William Dolman 1803 Cherhill

Dear Andy

I confirm that we have looked further into these entries, which I recall
were as follows:

CALNE - Parish Baptisms
1802 Sep 12 - William, son of William and Elizabeth DOLMAN, born 3
September.
1803 Dec 28 - William, son of Ann BUTTON, born 4 September, reputed father
is Walter DOLMAN.

We previously searched for infant burials of the above two, without finding
anything in Calne, so I would assume that both may have survived. I
therefore carried out Marriage searches for them, as follows:


1) Marriage search

Looking for William DOLMAN, post-1815, I found the following entries in our
Wiltshire Index:

DATE: 17 FEB 1818 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish
BRIDE: NORRIS Betty

DATE: 03 APR 1823 PLACE: Cherhill by Banns
GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish
BRIDE: POTTOW Ann of this parish

DATE: 15 SEP 1834 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN William Bach of this parish
BRIDE: WHITE Eliza Spin of this parish

DATE: 16 MAY 1836 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN als MILES William Bach of this parish
BRIDE: WALTER Mary Ann Spin of this parish

Our Wiltshire Marriage Index only goes up to 1837, but that should cover all
of the period we would expect for this marriage.
As you can see, only the 1823 entry appears to be the only one that is
relevant, and that's your William anyway.


2) Marriage search

Looking for William BUTTON, post-1815, I noted these entries for BATTON or
BUTTON:

DATE: 01 DEC 1819 PLACE: Homington by Banns
GROOM: BUTTON William of this parish
BRIDE: PRINCE Anne of this parish
Consent of parents.

DATE: 28 JAN 1827 PLACE: Calne
GROOM: BUTTON William of this parish
BRIDE: LAWRENCE Ann of this parish

DATE: 21 APR 1828 PLACE: Marlborough St Peter by Licence
GROOM: BATTEN William Wid Hursborne, Hants.
BRIDE: HOLDWAY Hannah Spin of this parish

DATE: 30 MAY 1831 PLACE: Bradford on Avon
GROOM: BATTEN William Tiverton
BRIDE: HANNY Harriett

DATE: 25 DEC 1832 PLACE: Downton by Banns
GROOM: BATTEN William of this parish
BRIDE: RICHMAN Rebecca of this parish

DATE: 22 OCT 1835 PLACE: Pitton & Farley
GROOM: BATTEN William of this parish
BRIDE: WHITE Eleanor of this parish

Of these, I am sure that the entry in 1827 in Calne, is the William who was
baptised in 1803.
This would make him aged 24 when he was married - just about right, but this
isn't your William.


3) Conclusion

Given the above findings, I am fairly confident that your William is the one
found in Calne 1827, born to William & Elizabeth 1802, even though he later
said that he was born in Cherhill. If his family moved to Cherhill sometime
after the birth, maybe he believed that this was where he was born.

William Dolman 1803 Cherhill

Dear Andrew I confirm that we have continued with your research as follows: 1) Baptisms check To make sure there were no entries in Cherhill, that the White Horse Index missed, we searched the following: CHERHILL Parish Baptisms Started search 1805 1805 Dec 25 - Edward, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN 1805 Dec 25 - John, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN Stopped search 1810 No further DOLMAN entries (taken from original registers on fiche) So this result appears to confirm the White Horse results, using confirmed sources. In case you didn't already have this, the following entry was spotted, which appears to be William's wife: CHERHILL Parish Baptism 1804 Nov 18 - Ann, dau of Uria and Sarah POTTOW. (taken from original registers on fiche) 2) Marriage entry We checked this marriage entry from 1823: DATE: 03 APR 1823 PLACE: Cherhill GROOM: DOLMAN William BRIDE: POTTOW Ann The details of this were correct, plus: Both were of this parish. Marriage by banns. He marked, she signed. Witnesses Samuel ROGERS and Jane POTTOW 3) Calne Baptisms We checked these IGI-found entries, which proved to be as follows: CALNE Parish Baptisms 1802 Sep 12 - William, son of William and Elizabeth DOLMAN, born 3 September. 1803 Dec 28 - William, son of Ann BUTTON, born 4 September, reputed father is Walter DOLMAN. (taken from original registers on fiche) So the second of these was illegitimate, not something the IGI mentioned! You probably only have to worry about the latter if he was later legitimised, or if they were in a long term relationship, causing the child to be brought up as DOLMAN. Walter however, appears as father to another woman's child too, in 1805. 4) Calne burials We did check the Calne burials up to the end of 1808, to see if any of these died in infancy. We came across a William BUTTON in 1804 but he appeared to be an adult (had an illegible occupation entered), and then found this burial: CALNE Parish Burials Started search 1802 1806 Oct 28 - Walter, son of Ann BUTTON, reputed father Walter DOLMAN Stopped search 1808 (taken from original registers on fiche) As this might have been a confusion over the child's name, and he might really have been William, we went back to the baptisms and found that there WAS in fact a son Walter born in 1805, so possibly Ann and Walter senior were in a long-term relationship after all, but it still looks more likely that their William remained as Button. There is a possibility though that Ann was sent away (to relatives in Cherhill?) to have the child, but brought the child back to Calne for baptism. 5) Conclusion So, whilst we have found some nearby baptisms for William DOLMAN (1802 & 1803, Calne), there is no certainty about whether either of these are your William. We can of course continue the search, looking for possible marriages or burials for these 2 people.

William Dolman 1803 Cherhill

Dear Andy I confirm that we have now carried out the following searches for you. 1) Review I note that you are wanting to find the origins of William DOLMAN. We have a record of his marriage, as follows: DATE: 03 APR 1823 PLACE: Cherhill GROOM: DOLMAN William BRIDE: POTTOW Ann Our Wiltshire Marriage Index does usually record ancillary information if it is given in the registers, but in this case, there does not appear to be anything further about this couple. I also checked for a Marriage Licence Bond for this couple, but there does not appear to be any surviving document for this. 2) 1851 census I checked for William in the 1851 census, and found his household as follows: THE PARISH OF: Cherhill ENUMHOUSE: 0038 SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: William AGE : 48 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Head BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Ann AGE : 48 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Wife BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Jhon AGE : 19 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: George AGE : 15 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Clare AGE : 11 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Hugh AGE : 08 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts So he does seem to have been born in Cherhill. However, that doesn't mean that he was baptised there, or indeed anywhere at all. I therefore think that we need to double-check the obvious place (Cherhill) before we go off blindly searching other places. 3) Baptisms search Robert Marsh therefore extracted all the DOLMAN entries in Cherhill around this time, which he says are as follows: CHERHILL Parish Baptisms Started search 1789 1789 Dec 20 - Mary, dau of James & Betty DOLMAN 1790 Nov 07 - Catharine, dau of Isaac & Molly DOLMAN 1792 May 27 - James, son of William & Elizabeth DOLMAN 1792 Dec 25 - James, son of James & Elizabeth DOLMAN 1795 Apr 05 - Ann, dau of James & Bety DOLMAN 1795 Nov 15 - Isaac, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN 1795 Nov 15 - Rebekah, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN 1799 Nov 17 - William, son of William & Betty DOLMAN 1801 Mar 01 - Jane, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN 1805 Dec 25 - Edward, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN 1805 Dec 25 - John, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN Stopped search 1810 So we do have quite a few couples here, who could be potential parents for your William: James and Elizabeth/Betty Isaac and Mary William and Elizabeth However, I find it strange that after a concentrated burst of children, there are then no further ones between 1805 and 1810. 4) Marriage search I checked our Wiltshire Marriage Index for marriages of the above 3 couples, in case there was mention of a link with another parish. I was able to find these three, as follows: DATE: 03 SEP 1789 PLACE: Cherhill GROOM: DOLMAN James of this parish BRIDE: WILTSHIRE Elizabeth of this parish DATE: 04 JAN 1790 PLACE: Cherhill GROOM: DOLMAN Isaac of this parish BRIDE: RAWLINGS Mary of this parish DATE: 08 NOV 1787 PLACE: Cherhill GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish BRIDE: BULLOCK Elizabeth of this parish So all of these appear to we well settled in Cherhill, and no other clues as to other places. In case that none of the above couples were the parents of your William, I also checked for other DOLMAN male marriages between 1785 and 1810, and noted these: 11 JLY 1785 at Steeple Ashton 22 DEC 1787 at Maiden Bradley 06 APR 1788 at Chippenham 27 MAY 1792 at Lacock, groom of Compton Bassett 28 MAR 1796 at Longbridge Deverill 22 SEP 1801 at Longbridge Deverill 04 DEC 1809 at Devizes St John 14 OCT 1804 at Calne We could investigate these further if you wish. 5) IGI entries I note your comment about the IGI entry from 1799. As you will see, this does appear in the Parish Baptisms, so that's ok. It's a bit early to be your William though, and if (as you say) he died, then that does discount him. We can check the burials if you wish, to confirm this is the case, let me know if you want this done. I do also note a couple of contributors have entered William DOLMAN 'about 1803 at Cherhill'. Which means that others have looked for this baptism, and failed to find it. I did also note from the IGI, the following entries: William DOLMAN 03 SEP 1802 - Calne, Wiltshire, son of William & Elizabeth William DOLMAN 28 DEC 1803 - Calne, Wiltshire, son of Walter & Ann. So there are also a couple of other nearby possibilities, providing that these can be verified from the Parish Registers at Calne. 6) Further searches To try and resolve this problem, I would suggest the following a) Get copy of marriage entry for William DOLMAN in 1823. The witnesses names may give us some clues. b) Check the Cherhill registers for 1805-1810, in case there has been an error in the White Horse index.

Emma Dolman, Studley, 1865

>Hello Andy,
>
>My name is Kath, I have just looked at your family tree, with great interest. My Grt Grandmother was Emma Dolman, born in Studley Wiltshire in 1865. Her father was William Dolman born 1829, his father Thomas Dolman born 1800, and his father John Dolman 1775.

Emma Dolman married Robert Fry of Foxham in 1886 and they lived at Dumb Post Hill and Thornend Cottage in Christian Malford. My gran, Mabel was their eldest daughter.
Kath Cole

Dolman Family History

I've added a new site. Dolman family History link on right. This is because I wanted to have online access to all the Births, Deaths, Marriages and Baptisms info that I have found so far. On the homepage there is a link to Dolman BDM or alternatively click on the map of Cherhill. I will also try to put a downloadable version of this as an XL file on this site.

Clive Henly's Family Tree

Hi Andy,

Over the weekend I loaded some new software onto my website, and have
managed to put my complete family tree up there - some 46,000 people
including many Dolman from Wiltshire. Pease have a look at
http://www.henly.org.uk/phpgedview402

You will need to register in order to see the file. Please feel free to
add/change anything - alternatively send me a Gedcom file with any additions
you have, and I shall merge it with the one I have and load it up.

With best wishes

Clive

Dolman Baptisms 1563 - 1799

All (?) the Dolman baptisms from the whitehorse parish registers have been saved as a text file on the Dolmans of Cherhill page - link on the right. Thanks to Father Robert Marsh for finding this info.

Variations of spellings found so far

Due to other people writing up the census sheets and Parish registers there was no consistent spelling of surnames. So far I've found these variations of Dolman in Wiltshire:
Dolman
Doleman
Dollman
Dowlman
Dalemon
Dalimon
Dalleman
Dallman
Delman
Doman
Dolmond

All of these come from Dolman "strongholds", however Dolman and Doleman are the most common on the census returns.

Dolmans of Cherhill and Calne

I've added a pdf and interactive tree of all the info I have for all of the Dolmans in the Cherill and Calne area. This will be updated as I get new info. There may be inaccuracies. If you find any please let me know. I've found 2 completely different Histories for John Dolman 1766!

Access the tree by Clicking on the Dolmans of Cherhill link on the right.(All in one tree of John Dolman)

William Dolman 1764 Cherhill - 1841 census

The following Dolmans from the Calne area were in the Calne union workhouse in the 1841 census. They include William Dolman (born 1764) when he was 77.

Anne Dolman	abt 1829	Wiltshire, England	Calne Parish	Wiltshire
	George Dolman	abt 1832	Wiltshire, England	Calne Parish	Wiltshire
	Harriett Dolman	abt 1808	Wiltshire, England	Calne Parish	Wiltshire
	John Dolman	abt 1831	Wiltshire, England	Calne Parish	Wiltshire
	Rebecca Dolman	abt 1837	Wiltshire, England	Calne Parish	Wiltshire
	William Dolman	abt 1764	Wiltshire, England	Calne Parish	Wiltshire

Thomas Dolman Will 1570 Hungerford

http://www.moonrakers.org.uk/md/Probate-Docs/waout0.html

1570 thomas dolman hungerford brk dean of sarum will 9990

[register copy] will of thomas dolman of hungerford innholder. Dated feb 1569 To cathedral church of sarum 4d To poor of hungerford 2s To reparation of hungerford parish church 12d To son john dolman household furnishings, including the glass in the windows [etc] To robert batt son of humfrey batt 3s-4d To humfry batt a piece of timber The residue to johane my wife Overseers: my well beloved friends thomas seymour and john lovelake Wit: edward bronker vicar of hungerford, humfrey batt, thomas preston Probate 1570.

Might be useful to someone!

Frederick Dolman 1872 Cherhill enlist info

http://www.thewardrobe.org.uk/militia_results.php?search_string=Dolman&search_type=exact&offset=0&page_offset=0 Dolman, Frederick Born at: Cherhill, Calne. Enlisted on : 19 Nov 1889, aged : 17 years 11 months

Dolman, Henry Born at: Yatton Keynell, Chippenham. Enlisted on : 29 Sept 1902, aged : 18 years 3 months

Dolman, James Born at: Yatton Keynell, Chippenham. Enlisted on : 19 Dec 1891, aged : 25 years 9 months

Dolman, William Born at: Yatton Keynell, Chippenham. Enlisted on : 25 Oct 1904, aged : 18 years 4 months

William Dolman 1803 Cherhill

Hi Andy,

Good to hear from you.

William Dolman is also my ggg grandfather - I am a descendant of Hugh Dolman whereas you are a descendant of Hugh''s older brother, John.

Unfortunately I have not been able to get back further than William either.

Jeffrey Dolman (Australia)

william dolman 1733 (marriage) Maiden Bradley

Hi I am related to the Maiden Bradley lot and like all of us we are all looking for the same person William Dolman abt 1733 married in Maiden Bradley died 1796 Maiden Bradley has anyone got a William about this date in cherhill Bremhill Calne areas please will gladly share info

John Dolman 1727 Calne/Cherhill

Hi Andy,

Thanks very much for your email.

DOLMAN (and related Lines) is one of my "problem" areas on my Tree.

My grandmother (Mum's side) was a WHITE. The WHITE Line connects to a CAREY Line and a Robert CAREY (Second Great Granduncle) bp. 5 Jun 1803, West Knoyle, WIL, ENG married Maria DOLMAN (bp. 6 Aug 1804, Melksham, WIL, ENG) on 24 Oct 1824, Great Canford, DOR, ENG.

Now normally I would have left it at that but when I saw that Maria DOLMAN's parents were John DOLMAN (bp. 19 Jan 1766, Cherhill, WIL, ENG) and Sarah NASH (I cannot ID a bp. for her) married 27 May 1792, Lacock, WIL, ENG I became more interested as I have more NASH that marry into the WHITE Line.

This John DOLMAN was the son of John DOLMAN (bp. 24 Mar 1727/28, Calne, WIL, ENG) & Mary GREEN who married 24 Aug 1761, Calne, WIL, ENG. To my current knowledge they had 3 children: -
William DOLMAN bp. 6 May 1764, Cherhill, WIL, ENG. I have not found a marriage for him.
John DOLMAN (he is the one I mentioned above who married Sarah NASH). Betty DOLMAN bp. 30 Oct 1769, Cherhill, WIL, ENG. Betty married an Edward WESTON 6 Aug 1796, Calne, WIL, ENG but I have not carried out any more research.


Best regards,


Ian Butterworth

Dolmans

There are a number of Dolmans in my family tree "challinor" at Ancestry.com.

William Dolman 1803 Cherhill

Is anyone looking at the family history of the Dolman family from the Cherhill, Calne, Calstone, Studley and Bremhill areas of Wiltshire? My own line of enquiy has only taken me back as far as William Dolman Born between (probably 1803 to 1806) in Cherhill. The only lead I have is a William Dolman born in 1799 in Cherhill, son of William and Betty Dolman. This is possible as the dates on the census already vary considerably from one census to another. This William (17/11/1799) had at least 2 siblings (James 27/5/1792 and John 1/2/1789) . His father William was c1764 - siblings;

1764 May 6 William s John & Mary Dolman

1766 Jan 19 John s John & Mary Dolman

1767 Dec (no date) Isaac s John Dolman

1769 Oct 30 Betty s John & Mary Dolman
If anyone can help untangle this I'd be grateful.
Andy Dolman