Hi Andy,
Has anyone tried to connect up the early different Dolman families. I am connected to the Sussex Dolman/Dollmans. There is a will for Waulter Dolman, Receiver of Pevensey, proved 1449 and one previous Waulter in 13.. both for Sussex. Waulter Dolman mentions his cousins the Shiryngtons who were influential people and Waulter Sh was at Agincourt with Duke of Gloucester. I am hoping to have a DNA test done on my father. It may be interesting to have Dolmans tested from other areas as well to compare roots. Waulter Shiryngton also held the Manor of Bernes which included most of London. Perhaps we all started there?! Would love someone to tell me more on the roots of our Dolmans ( Dollman, Doman, Doleman Dowman etc )
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Hi Penny,
At the moment I think there were 3 or 4 main concentrations of Dolmans in England. The ones I know of are Staffordshire, North Wilts (my family), Salisbury area of Wiltshire and Pocklington in the East Riding of Yorkshire. The Wiltshire families have to a lesser or greater degree been researched back to the 1570s, although there are earlier mentions in Salisbury on Militia lists. The Pocklington Dolmans have, I think, been researched back to the 1200s (land owning gentry, supported the royalists in the civil war!). They probably account for the Berkshire Dolmans. If your Dolmans were land owning and wealthy they may well be linked to the Pocklington Dolmans. At the moment I don't know of any links between the different Dolman clans. There is a theory that the Wiltshire Dolmans may be descended from the Pocklington Dlmans via Berkshire, however the dates of arrival in Berkshire and the earliest Dolman records in Wiltshire make seem unlikely. (It would be nice as I now live near pocklington and there are huge stone crypts and brasses as well Dolman hall). I have know idea how the Pevensey Dolmans fit in. It may be, if they had money, that they were merchants as Pevensey was closer to the sea in the 1400s than it is now. Pevensey is a great place, I used to go bird watching there with friends from Brighton. It may even be possible that the Wiltshire Dolmans came from Sussex!!
Not much help I'm afraid.
All the best
Andy Dolman
My great-great-grandmother was a Dolman from Pocklington (Yorkshire/Lincolnshire). Do you know if there are any links to the Wiltshire Dolmans? I have a pedigree listing which goes back to 1290 and includes lots of landowning aristocracy, but I now realise there are millions of Dolmans and wonder if the name itself has some sort of occupational history. I thought the Newbury Dolmans were of the same branch, but can't match the dates.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Eve Gillmon
I think it would be interesting to see if it can be shown if the Different Dolmans were "English" Norman or Scots. This may be shown with DNA I think. Please correct me if this is not so. DNA testing is mainly useful when it is compared to other people's DNA and particularly if compared to those who know their paternal line. If any male can show 7 gens of paternal line would they consider having a DNA test done?
Interesting times. Andy the name. Obviously a family name as I have noted the will of an Andrew Dolman on PCC. Penny in Canberra
Hi Penny,
As far as I know Andrew isn't a family name. William, George, Frederick and John are family names.
There is a Dutch Dolmans (with "s") family from Maastricht (Netherlands), going back to 1400, and before that Bree (Belgium). The genealogy is published in "Dolmans, Genealogie en Familiegeschiedenis", by J.H.M. Moers, 2003, but only in Dutch. It is pretty exhaustive and has a lot of data on early history as well as early documents and pictures of houses, etc. The family declined in the 1600's after the seige of Maastricht. I have had mtDNA tests done by "FamilytreeDNA" (Haplogroup H). I would be interested to compare, since there is a - not very credible - story that we would originally have come from England (Hampshire). If it's any lead: Coat of arms is (1) three red lions rampant on gold, (2) three silver roses on red, (3) four golden hammers on blue, and (4) a green oakbranch on silver.
With best regards,
M. Dolmans (Dolmans@gmail.com)
I am having my father's DNA ( 46 ) done through Ancestry.com as I presume that they will be around for longer than other DNA testing companies. This will be on his 90 birthday 17 February. I would be delighted to compare results. I said earlier about origins but of course the name may also have been Scandinavian-Viking-original Saxon, Celt, Norman or from "scotland" as some researchers believe Penny nee Dolman in AUS
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