Friday, 8 December 2006

William Dolman 1803 Cherhill


Dear Andrew

I confirm that we have continued with your research as follows:


1) Baptisms check

To make sure there were no entries in Cherhill, that the White Horse Index
missed, we searched the following:

CHERHILL
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1805
1805 Dec 25 - Edward, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN
1805 Dec 25 - John, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN
Stopped search 1810
No further DOLMAN entries
(taken from original registers on fiche)

So this result appears to confirm the White Horse results, using confirmed
sources.

In case you didn't already have this, the following entry was spotted, which
appears to be William's wife:

CHERHILL
Parish Baptism
1804 Nov 18 - Ann, dau of Uria and Sarah POTTOW.
(taken from original registers on fiche)


2) Marriage entry

We checked this marriage entry from 1823:

DATE: 03 APR 1823 PLACE: Cherhill
GROOM: DOLMAN William
BRIDE: POTTOW Ann

The details of this were correct, plus:

Both were of this parish.
Marriage by banns.
He marked, she signed.
Witnesses Samuel ROGERS and Jane POTTOW


3) Calne Baptisms

We checked these IGI-found entries, which proved to be as follows:

CALNE
Parish Baptisms
1802 Sep 12 - William, son of William and Elizabeth DOLMAN, born 3
September.
1803 Dec 28 - William, son of Ann BUTTON, born 4 September, reputed father
is Walter DOLMAN.
(taken from original registers on fiche)

So the second of these was illegitimate, not something the IGI mentioned!
You probably only have to worry about the latter if he was later
legitimised, or if they were in a long term relationship, causing the child
to be brought up as DOLMAN. Walter however, appears as father to another
woman's child too, in 1805.


4) Calne burials

We did check the Calne burials up to the end of 1808, to see if any of these
died in infancy.
We came across a William BUTTON in 1804 but he appeared to be an adult (had
an illegible occupation entered), and then found this burial:

CALNE
Parish Burials
Started search 1802
1806 Oct 28 - Walter, son of Ann BUTTON, reputed father Walter DOLMAN
Stopped search 1808
(taken from original registers on fiche)

As this might have been a confusion over the child's name, and he might
really have been William, we went back to the baptisms and found that there
WAS in fact a son Walter born in 1805, so possibly Ann and Walter senior
were in a long-term relationship after all, but it still looks more likely
that their William remained as Button.
There is a possibility though that Ann was sent away (to relatives in
Cherhill?) to have the child, but brought the child back to Calne for
baptism.


5) Conclusion

So, whilst we have found some nearby baptisms for William DOLMAN (1802 &
1803, Calne), there is no certainty about whether either of these are your
William. We can of course continue the search, looking for possible
marriages or burials for these 2 people.

William Dolman 1803 Cherhill

Dear Andy

I confirm that we have now carried out the following searches for you.


1) Review

I note that you are wanting to find the origins of William DOLMAN.
We have a record of his marriage, as follows:

DATE: 03 APR 1823 PLACE: Cherhill
GROOM: DOLMAN William
BRIDE: POTTOW Ann

Our Wiltshire Marriage Index does usually record ancillary information if it
is given in the registers, but in this case, there does not appear to be
anything further about this couple.

I also checked for a Marriage Licence Bond for this couple, but there does
not appear to be any surviving document for this.


2) 1851 census

I checked for William in the 1851 census, and found his household as
follows:

THE PARISH OF: Cherhill ENUMHOUSE: 0038
SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: William
AGE : 48 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Head
BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts

SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Ann
AGE : 48 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Wife
BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts

SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Jhon
AGE : 19 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son
BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts

SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: George
AGE : 15 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son
BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts

SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Clare
AGE : 11 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son
BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts

SURNAME : DOLMAN FORENAME: Hugh
AGE : 08 RELATIONSHIP TO HEAD OF HOUSE: Son
BORN : Cherhill IN THE COUNTY OF: Wilts

So he does seem to have been born in Cherhill.
However, that doesn't mean that he was baptised there, or indeed anywhere at
all.

I therefore think that we need to double-check the obvious place (Cherhill)
before we go off blindly searching other places.


3) Baptisms search

Robert Marsh therefore extracted all the DOLMAN entries in Cherhill around
this time, which he says are as follows:

CHERHILL
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1789
1789 Dec 20 - Mary, dau of James & Betty DOLMAN
1790 Nov 07 - Catharine, dau of Isaac & Molly DOLMAN
1792 May 27 - James, son of William & Elizabeth DOLMAN
1792 Dec 25 - James, son of James & Elizabeth DOLMAN
1795 Apr 05 - Ann, dau of James & Bety DOLMAN
1795 Nov 15 - Isaac, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN
1795 Nov 15 - Rebekah, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN
1799 Nov 17 - William, son of William & Betty DOLMAN
1801 Mar 01 - Jane, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN
1805 Dec 25 - Edward, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN
1805 Dec 25 - John, son of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN
Stopped search 1810

So we do have quite a few couples here, who could be potential parents for
your William:

James and Elizabeth/Betty
Isaac and Mary
William and Elizabeth

However, I find it strange that after a concentrated burst of children,
there are then no further ones between 1805 and 1810.


4) Marriage search

I checked our Wiltshire Marriage Index for marriages of the above 3 couples,
in case there was mention of a link with another parish.
I was able to find these three, as follows:

DATE: 03 SEP 1789 PLACE: Cherhill
GROOM: DOLMAN James of this parish
BRIDE: WILTSHIRE Elizabeth of this parish

DATE: 04 JAN 1790 PLACE: Cherhill
GROOM: DOLMAN Isaac of this parish
BRIDE: RAWLINGS Mary of this parish

DATE: 08 NOV 1787 PLACE: Cherhill
GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish
BRIDE: BULLOCK Elizabeth of this parish

So all of these appear to we well settled in Cherhill, and no other clues as
to other places.

In case that none of the above couples were the parents of your William, I
also checked for other DOLMAN male marriages between 1785 and 1810, and
noted these:

11 JLY 1785 at Steeple Ashton
22 DEC 1787 at Maiden Bradley
06 APR 1788 at Chippenham
27 MAY 1792 at Lacock, groom of Compton Bassett
28 MAR 1796 at Longbridge Deverill
22 SEP 1801 at Longbridge Deverill
04 DEC 1809 at Devizes St John
14 OCT 1804 at Calne

We could investigate these further if you wish.


5) IGI entries

I note your comment about the IGI entry from 1799.
As you will see, this does appear in the Parish Baptisms, so that's ok.
It's a bit early to be your William though, and if (as you say) he died,
then that does discount him.
We can check the burials if you wish, to confirm this is the case, let me
know if you want this done.

I do also note a couple of contributors have entered William DOLMAN 'about
1803 at Cherhill'.
Which means that others have looked for this baptism, and failed to find it.

I did also note from the IGI, the following entries:

William DOLMAN 03 SEP 1802 - Calne, Wiltshire, son of William & Elizabeth
William DOLMAN 28 DEC 1803 - Calne, Wiltshire, son of Walter & Ann.

So there are also a couple of other nearby possibilities, providing that
these can be verified from the Parish Registers at Calne.


6) Further searches

To try and resolve this problem, I would suggest the following

a) Get copy of marriage entry for William DOLMAN in 1823.
The witnesses names may give us some clues.

b) Check the Cherhill registers for 1805-1810, in case there has been an
error in the White Horse index.





Saturday, 2 December 2006

Emma Dolman, Studley, 1865

>Hello Andy,
>
>My name is Kath, I have just looked at your family tree, with great interest. My Grt Grandmother was Emma Dolman, born in Studley Wiltshire in 1865. Her father was William Dolman born 1829, his father Thomas Dolman born 1800, and his father John Dolman 1775.

Emma Dolman married Robert Fry of Foxham in 1886 and they lived at Dumb Post Hill and Thornend Cottage in Christian Malford. My gran, Mabel was their eldest daughter.
Kath Cole

Wednesday, 29 November 2006

Dolman Family History

I've added a new site. Dolman family History link on right. This is because I wanted to have online access to all the Births, Deaths, Marriages and Baptisms info that I have found so far. On the homepage there is a link to Dolman BDM or alternatively click on the map of Cherhill. I will also try to put a downloadable version of this as an XL file on this site.

Monday, 27 November 2006

Clive Henly's Family Tree

Hi Andy,

Over the weekend I loaded some new software onto my website, and have
managed to put my complete family tree up there - some 46,000 people
including many Dolman from Wiltshire. Pease have a look at
http://www.henly.org.uk/phpgedview402

You will need to register in order to see the file. Please feel free to
add/change anything - alternatively send me a Gedcom file with any additions
you have, and I shall merge it with the one I have and load it up.

With best wishes

Clive

Friday, 24 November 2006

Dolman Baptisms 1563 - 1799

All (?) the Dolman baptisms from the whitehorse parish registers have been saved as a text file on the Dolmans of Cherhill page - link on the right. Thanks to Father Robert Marsh for finding this info.

Variations of spellings found so far

Due to other people writing up the census sheets and Parish registers there was no consistent spelling of surnames. So far I've found these variations of Dolman in Wiltshire:
Dolman
Doleman
Dollman
Dowlman
Dalemon
Dalimon
Dalleman
Dallman
Delman
Doman
Dolmond

All of these come from Dolman "strongholds", however Dolman and Doleman are the most common on the census returns.

Thursday, 23 November 2006

Dolmans of Cherhill and Calne

I've added a pdf and interactive tree of all the info I have for all of the Dolmans in the Cherill and Calne area. This will be updated as I get new info. There may be inaccuracies. If you find any please let me know. I've found 2 completely different Histories for John Dolman 1766!

Access the tree by Clicking on the Dolmans of Cherhill link on the right.(All in one tree of John Dolman)

William Dolman 1764 Cherhill - 1841 census

The following Dolmans from the Calne area were in the Calne union workhouse in the 1841 census. They include William Dolman (born 1764) when he was 77.
Anne Dolman abt 1829 Wiltshire, England Calne Parish Wiltshire

George Dolman abt 1832 Wiltshire, England Calne Parish Wiltshire

Harriett Dolman abt 1808 Wiltshire, England Calne Parish Wiltshire

John Dolman abt 1831 Wiltshire, England Calne Parish Wiltshire

Rebecca Dolman abt 1837 Wiltshire, England Calne Parish Wiltshire

William Dolman abt 1764 Wiltshire, England Calne Parish Wiltshire