DOLMANS IN THE NETHERLANDS

There is a Dutch Dolmans (with "s") family from Maastricht (Netherlands), going back to 1400, and before that Bree (Belgium). The genealogy is published in "Dolmans, Genealogie en Familiegeschiedenis", by J.H.M. Moers, 2003, but only in Dutch. It is pretty exhaustive and has a lot of data on early history as well as early documents and
pictures of houses, etc. The family declined in the 1600's after the seige of Maastricht. I have had mtDNA tests done by "FamilytreeDNA" (Haplogroup H). I would be interested to compare, since there is a - not very credible - story that we would originally have come from England (Hampshire). If it's any lead: Coat of arms is (1) three red
lions rampant on gold, (2) three silver roses on red, (3) four golden hammers on blue, and (4) a green oakbranch on silver.

The Hampshire story may be a misreading of an mediaeval document (the author of the family history
book suggests the text in fact refers to Ham-sur-Heure, a place in South Belgium).

Interesting you thought you linked to the Dutch family. When? If anyone has a question on an individual who might be Dutch, please let me know and I can check.

As far as we know, there is only one Dolmans family in the Netherlands, and we are all related, and all lived in and around Maastricht (from 1400-1700). Before 1400 they were in Bree, St. Truiden and Tongerloo in Belgium. We have a few files from the mid 1300's, from people who would be of a level to leave records (aldermen etc) but unfortunately, the archives of Bree burned when the Germans moved through in 1914, so we doubt we will find much earlier. But I am told there may be things in the Brussels archives.

Maurits Dolmans

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Dolmans in Brisbane

Hi Andy,
My name is Christopher James DOLMAN I live in Australia
Brisbane Queensland, Also have Grandparents in Hervey bay QLD

My Father is in Mackay QLD and an aunty here in Brisbane

QLD.

I have as well as my nanna been tracing back to our name and

I was thinking that your Family Tree may cross with ours somewhere.

My Nanna and Poppa are both from England and My Father also.

Just thought I would drop my name to you in case it helps
you also anything you can help with much appreciated.

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Sussex Dolmans

Hi Andy,


Has anyone tried to connect up the early different Dolman families. I am connected to the Sussex Dolman/Dollmans. There is a will for Waulter Dolman, Receiver of Pevensey, proved 1449 and one previous Waulter in 13.. both for Sussex. Waulter Dolman mentions his cousins the Shiryngtons who were influential people and Waulter Sh was at Agincourt with Duke of Gloucester. I am hoping to have a DNA test done on my father. It may be interesting to have Dolmans tested from other areas as well to compare roots. Waulter Shiryngton also held the Manor of Bernes which included most of London. Perhaps we all started there?! Would love someone to tell me more on the roots of our Dolmans ( Dollman, Doman, Doleman Dowman etc )

Best Wishes Penny Dolman-Canberra AUS

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Jane Dolman, 1708, Calne

b cleverly said...

I found the post again for Jane Dolman.
From Feb 07
Does anyone have more information on Jane Dolman?
It looks like she has some sisters and brothers, father John Dolman Jr.
DOLMAN BAPTISMS CALNE 1701 - 1754
1708 Oct 20 - Jane, dau of John DOLMAN junr.

Dolmans from The Official Non-Parochial BMDs Service

Further details can be obtained from
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/news/stories/172.htm

Dolman George 1712 Baptism Somerset RG4
Dolman Joseph 1718 Baptism Somerset RG4
Dolman Benjamin 1718 Baptism Somerset RG4
Dolman Joseph 1718 Baptism Somerset RG4
Dolman Benjamin 1718 Baptism Somerset RG4
Dolman George 1722 Baptism Gloucestershire RG4
Dolman Mary 1729 Baptism Gloucestershire RG4
Dolman Sarah 1729 Baptism Gloucestershire RG4
Dolman Mary 1731 Baptism Gloucestershire RG4
Dolman Sarah 1736 Baptism Devon RG4
Dolman Joseph 1739 Baptism Devon RG4
Dolman John 1771 Baptism Yorkshire RG4
Dolman William 1771 Death Yorkshire RG4
Dolman Mrs 1772 Death Yorkshire RG4
Dolman Captain John 1782 Burial London RG4
Dolman Stephen 1801 Baptism Kent RG4
Dolman Jane 1804 Baptism Dorset RG4
Dolman Sarah 1804 Baptism Wiltshire RG4
Dolman Mary 1804 Baptism Wiltshire RG4
Dolman Maria 1804 Baptism Wiltshire RG4
Dolman John 1804 Baptism Wiltshire RG4
Dolman James 1805 Baptism Wiltshire RG4
Dolman Catherine 1805 Baptism Hampshire RG4
Dolman Prudence 1809 Burial Wiltshire RG4
Dolman William Walter 1813 Baptism Wiltshire RG4
Dolman Joseph 1817 Baptism Leicestershire RG4
Dolman Francis 1818 Baptism Leicestershire RG4
Dolman Benjamin 1818 Baptism Derbyshire RG4
Dolman Sarah 1818 Burial Wiltshire RG4
Dolman Emila 1819 Baptism Leicestershire RG4
Kewit Emily 1827 Baptism London RG4
Dolman John 1830 Baptism Wiltshire RG4
Dolman Elizabeth 1832 Burial London RG4
Dolman William 1832 Burial Kent RG4
Dolman William 1832 Baptism Derbyshire RG4
Dolman Ruben 1834 Baptism Staffordshire RG4
Dolman Mary Ann 1835 Burial Cheshire RG4
Dolman James 1835 Death Wiltshire RG4
Dolman John 1835 Burial Wiltshire RG4
Dolman Samuel 1835 Burial Staffordshire RG4
Dolman Mary 1836 Baptism Derbyshire RG4
Dolman Thomas David 1836 Baptism Staffordshire RG4

Dolman name distribution 1891 and 1998

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http://www.nationaltrustnames.org.uk/

Dolman George & Eliza Bristow , Marriage @1847 Pt2

I can't find a GRO entry for the birth of Ellen
DOLEMAN around 1846.
I checked the 1851 census original and she is definitely described as being '5'.
However, I see that in 1861, she was younger than Albert.
I therefore guess that she must be this entry below, and that her age was wrongly recorded in the 1851 census:

Civil Birth Record
1850 Dec qtr
Ellen DOLMAN
District: Chippenham
Vol.8, page 318.
(taken from GRO indexes on FreeBMD)

I will therefore amend what I said before, and suggest that the marriage for George and Eliza must have been around 1847.
However, I now can't find a GRO birth record for Alfred DOLMAN, and we also don't seem to have him in 1851. Hmmm, interesting!
I will ponder further.

Dolman George & Eliza Bristow, Marriage @ 1847

Dear Andy

I have now been able to look through this for you, and have the following
comments:


1) Marriage search

I see that you said that George and Elizabeth's first child was an Alfred (1848).
However, I note from the 1851 census, that there was an Ellen, aged 5 in 1851.
This means that they were married prior to 1846 (assuming that they got married).

We therefore revisited the marriage search in the GRO indexes, but still couldn't find a match.


2) 1841 census

Ages of adults in the 1841 census were rounded to the nearest 5 years.
Children's ages were generally recorded accurately. This entry does appear to be the George DOLEMAN that you are looking for. We checked for the marriage of James and Ann, and noted that this was as follows:

DATE: 27 NOV 1826 PLACE: Chippenham by Banns
GROOM: DOMAN James Bach of this parish
BRIDE: ELMS Anne Spin of this parish


3) Baptism search

From the places given for the birth-place of George, I suggest that Bremhill and Chippenham parishes are searched for an entry for him, c.1827. I will be going to the new Wiltshire Archives in a couple of days time, so if you would like me to look for this, let me know.


4) Marriage search

That still leaves us wanting to find the marriage of George and Eliza.

I suggest that the Chippenham Registrar could be asked to look for this, in their records.
Given that we now know the date of the first child, this means that George was aged only about 19 when she was born. That shouldn't leave much of a time-window for this to happen.

Chippenham Death Index 1869 - 1916

Surname Forename(s) Age Sub-District Registers At Reference Year
DOLMAN Elizabeth A 80 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/8/447 1916
DOLMAN Eliza J 65 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/7/397 1903
DOLMAN Emily 1 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/7/363 1902
DOLMAN Sarah A 2 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/7/324 1901
DOLMAN Edward J 3 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/7/237 1898
DOLMAN Frank 1 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/7/240 1898
DOLMAN Ernest A 0 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/6/319 1889
DOLMAN Henrietta 0 Corsham Chippenham COR/13/241 1885
DOLMAN Herbert H 2 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/6/2 1883
DOLMAN Sarah 85 Chippenham Chippenham CHIP/15/469 1879
DOLMAN Robert 45 Chippenham Chippenham CHIP/14/133 1874
DOLMAN William 68 Calne Chippenham CA/13/93 1872
DOLMAN Henry 0 Calne Chippenham CA/12/213 1870
DOLMAN James 63 Chippenham Chippenham CHIP/13/19 1870
DOLMAN John H 0 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/4/312 1869
DOLMAN John H 0 Castle Combe Chippenham CC/4/312 1869
DOLMAN Sarah 46 Calne Chippenham CA/12/96 1869
DOLMAN William 1 Chippenham Chippenham CHIP/12/354 1869

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William Dolman & Sarah Hending

In your Dolman Blog you show William, who married Sarah Hending ,
as being born in 1781 and his parents as Isaac b.c1753 and Sarah, nee
Cole,b 1756.

I am querying whether this William b c1781, the son of Isaac Dolman and Sarah ,nee Cole, was the one who married Sarah Hending in 1812 because, according to the IGI, he was buried on 9 Sept 1785. Could not the William who married Sarah Hending have been born c28 Apl 1792 in
Chippenham, the son of Edward Dolman and Sarah nee Wells. Edward was born in Tytherton c1763 and married in Chippenham in 1788 - see IGI file 537170. There is another IGI record-file537708 which shows a William Dolman b1795 in Chippenham - spouse Mrs Sarah Dolman - no details of his parents given.

Regards

Bill Clarke

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