2) Marriage check
We checked for further details of the marriage in 1761 for John DOLMAN to
Mary GREEN.
The entry on fiche confirmed the following:
By banns
Both were of the Parish.
Both made their mark.
No marital status given.
Witnesses: Chris GUNDRY or GUNDEY, and Sarah HORTEN.
3) Baptism search
Looking for Mary GREEN (marr 1761).
I note that the IGI says "about 1740, Calne", and we found the following
possibilities:
CALNE
Parish Baptisms
1733/34 Mar 14 - Mary, dau of Thomas GREEN
1749 July 29 - Mary, dau of William GREEN, of Tibbalds Green
(taken from unpublished transcript in Wilts R.O.)
We also double-checked the period 1738-1742 chronologically, as well as
using index.
Without further information, it would appear that the 1733/34 entry is
possibly her.
I did do a quick marriage search, to see if there might be another entry for
her, and found this:
DATE: -- MAR 1756 PLACE: Calne
GROOM: REEVES Stephen of Blackland
BRIDE: GREEN Mary of this parish
Banns only - no marriage recorded.
Which could strengthen our case in this respect.
Saturday, 3 February 2007
Dolman Baptisms 1757 - 1789 Calne
1) Baptisms search
Looking for information on the DOLMAN entries in Calne, we noted the
following:
CALNE
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1755
1757 Apr 03 - Walter, son of Walter DOLMAN, staymaker
1762 Oct 27 - James, son of James & Sarah DOLMAN, baker
1763 May 08 - Jane, dau of Walter & Betty DOLMAN, staymaker
1766 May 18 - Betty, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer
1769 May 14 - Mary, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer
1770 Nov 11 - Tryfanah Oaksford, dau of Betty DOLMAN, reputed father W.
OAKSFORD
1772 Aug 05 - Ann, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 27 June.
1775 Jun 09 - Isaac and John, sons of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 15
April.
1778 Sep 18 - Catherine, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 10 July.
1781 Jun 05 - Jane, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 17 March.
1783 May 18 - Isaac, son of Joseph and Mary DOLMAN, staymaker, born 31
March.
1785 Jan 05 - John, son of of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 8 December
1784.
1786 Oct 27 - Walter, son of Joseph and Mary DOLMAN, staymaker, born 16
Sept.
1789 Jan 14 - John, son of Joseph and Mary DOLMAN, staymaker, born 01 Jan.
Stopped search 1790
(taken from unpublished transcript in Wilts R.O.)
Looking for information on the DOLMAN entries in Calne, we noted the
following:
CALNE
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1755
1757 Apr 03 - Walter, son of Walter DOLMAN, staymaker
1762 Oct 27 - James, son of James & Sarah DOLMAN, baker
1763 May 08 - Jane, dau of Walter & Betty DOLMAN, staymaker
1766 May 18 - Betty, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer
1769 May 14 - Mary, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer
1770 Nov 11 - Tryfanah Oaksford, dau of Betty DOLMAN, reputed father W.
OAKSFORD
1772 Aug 05 - Ann, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 27 June.
1775 Jun 09 - Isaac and John, sons of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 15
April.
1778 Sep 18 - Catherine, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 10 July.
1781 Jun 05 - Jane, dau of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 17 March.
1783 May 18 - Isaac, son of Joseph and Mary DOLMAN, staymaker, born 31
March.
1785 Jan 05 - John, son of of Isaac & Mary DOLMAN, farmer, born 8 December
1784.
1786 Oct 27 - Walter, son of Joseph and Mary DOLMAN, staymaker, born 16
Sept.
1789 Jan 14 - John, son of Joseph and Mary DOLMAN, staymaker, born 01 Jan.
Stopped search 1790
(taken from unpublished transcript in Wilts R.O.)
John Dolman 1728/29 Calne/Cherhill
Looking for children of John & Mary DOLMAN (marr Calne 1761):
CALNE
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1761
Stopped search 1779
No children of John & Mary recorded here, but there were three contemporary
couples: James/Sarah, Walter/Betty and Isaac/Mary.
Details of their children can be extracted if you wish.
(taken from unpublished transcript in Wilts R.O.)
We then searched for them in Cherhill. This parish register proved very hard
to read because it is badly written, and the photocopied handwritten
so-called index in the searchroom is very poor. However it did show us that
there were some children of John and Mary DOLMAN here, so we extracted the
following from the original register on fiche, with confirmation of some
difficult bits from the BTs where available:
CHERHILL
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1761
1764 May 06 - William, son of John & Mary DOLMAN
1766 Jan 19 - John, son of John & Mary DOLMAN
1767 Dec 25 - Isaac, son of John DOLMAN
1769 Oct 30 - Betty, dau of John & Mary DOLMAN
Stopped search 1779
(taken from original registers on fiche)
There are no BTs for 1764 and we are not 100% sure of the date 6 May, but
that is what it looks most like.
Also noted at Cherhill in this period, was the following:
CHERHILL
Parish Baptisms
1763 Oct 23 - Isaac, son of James and Betty DOLMAN
(taken from original registers on fiche)
2) Baptisms check
Looking to verify baptism for John DOLMAN in Calne in Jan 1727/28.
We found the following:
CALNE
Parish Baptism
1728/29 Mar 24 - John son of John DOLMAN
(taken from unpublished transcript in Wilts R.O.)
Confusing with all these John's, isn't it?
CALNE
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1761
Stopped search 1779
No children of John & Mary recorded here, but there were three contemporary
couples: James/Sarah, Walter/Betty and Isaac/Mary.
Details of their children can be extracted if you wish.
(taken from unpublished transcript in Wilts R.O.)
We then searched for them in Cherhill. This parish register proved very hard
to read because it is badly written, and the photocopied handwritten
so-called index in the searchroom is very poor. However it did show us that
there were some children of John and Mary DOLMAN here, so we extracted the
following from the original register on fiche, with confirmation of some
difficult bits from the BTs where available:
CHERHILL
Parish Baptisms
Started search 1761
1764 May 06 - William, son of John & Mary DOLMAN
1766 Jan 19 - John, son of John & Mary DOLMAN
1767 Dec 25 - Isaac, son of John DOLMAN
1769 Oct 30 - Betty, dau of John & Mary DOLMAN
Stopped search 1779
(taken from original registers on fiche)
There are no BTs for 1764 and we are not 100% sure of the date 6 May, but
that is what it looks most like.
Also noted at Cherhill in this period, was the following:
CHERHILL
Parish Baptisms
1763 Oct 23 - Isaac, son of James and Betty DOLMAN
(taken from original registers on fiche)
2) Baptisms check
Looking to verify baptism for John DOLMAN in Calne in Jan 1727/28.
We found the following:
CALNE
Parish Baptism
1728/29 Mar 24 - John son of John DOLMAN
(taken from unpublished transcript in Wilts R.O.)
Confusing with all these John's, isn't it?
Monday, 22 January 2007
Ann Dolman 1795 Studley Hill Chippenham
Does anyone know the maiden name of Ann Dolman 1795. She was living with her daughter Elizabeth (Cleverley) and her husband William Cleverley in the 1851 census.
Sunday, 14 January 2007
Dolman Various
The following are from the Wiltshire Nimrod Varied Index . Further info can be requested from the Nimrod Index by clicking on their link on the right.
PARISH: CHERHILL
DATE: 08 NOV 1792
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: ISACK
CLASS: NEWSPAPER/BOOK REF. REF:
SOURCE: The Manor & Village of Cherhill, by J H Blackford, 1941.
NOTES: Paid a sum of money from parish poor fund.
DATE: 15 FEB 1760
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JAMES
CLASS: NEWSPAPER/BOOK REF. REF:
SOURCE: The Manor & Village of Cherhill, by J H Blackford, 1941.
NOTES: James DOLMAN, held land at Cherhill, also mentioned his daughters Hester and Sarah.
DATE: -- --- 1797-1798
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JAMES
CLASS: QUARTER SESSIONS REF: WRO
SOURCE: Transcribed by Janet Hall for Wilts FHS. Date is part of reference.
NOTES: In Devizes prison. Of Cherhill. 1797 Jly 11, Oct 3, 1798 Jan 9.
DATE: 25 SEP 1876
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JAMES EDWARD
CLASS: APPRENTICES REF: WRO/700/61
SOURCE: Broad Town Charity apprentices & masters transcribed by Dr. B.J.Carter.
NOTES: James Edward DOLMAN was proposed by Trustee Major C. Walker HENEAGE V.C. on 11 Jly 1876, to be apprenticed to John BARTER, cordwainer of Cherhill.
DATE: -- --- 1821
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: WILLIAM
CLASS: MILITARY REF: WRO/137/123
SOURCE: Transcribed by David Mattock.
NOTES: William DOLMAN of Cherhill was ballotted to serve in Wilts Militia for 3 years. Substituted by John EVANS age 21 labourer of Wootton Bassett.
DATE: -- --- 1850
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: WILLIAM
CLASS: NEWSPAPER/BOOK REF. REF:
SOURCE: The Manor & Village of Cherhill, by J H Blackford, 1941.
NOTES: Paid from parish funds for thatching parish house.
PARISH: CALNE
DATE: 02 MAR 1620
SURNAME: DOLLEMAN FORENAME: RICHARD
CLASS: EXCHEQUER REF: PRO
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society Vol.15. Early Stuart Tradesmen by Dr.N.J.Williams.
NOTES: Butcher of Calne. Recogisance not to sell meat in Lent or on a Friday.
DATE: 02 MAR 1620
SURNAME: DOLLMAN FORENAME: WILLIAM
CLASS: EXCHEQUER REF: PRO
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society Vol.15. Early Stuart Tradesmen by Dr.N.J.Williams.
NOTES: Butcher of Calne. Recogisance not to sell meat in Lent or on a Friday.
DATE: -- --- 1561-1688
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: ANN
CLASS: NEWSPAPER/BOOK REF. REF: WRO/G18/1/1
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society vol.7. Calne Guild Stewards' Book 1561-1688 by A.W.Mabbs.
NOTES: (This book is almost entirely of their accounts, but a few other lists are included).
DATE: -- --- 1736
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JOHN
CLASS: QUARTER SESSIONS REF: WRO
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society Vol.11. Wilts Quarter Sessions & Assizes 1736.
NOTES: Juror. Of Calne Hundred.
DATE: 11 JLY 1741
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JOHN
CLASS: QUARTER SESSIONS REF: WRO
SOURCE: Transcribed by Janet Hall for Wilts FHS. Date is part of reference.
NOTES: Mentioned in a case. Butcher of Calne.
DATE: 24 NOV 1848
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JOHN
CLASS: PETTY SESSIONS REF: WRO/A1/260
SOURCE: Magistrates Courts "Rough Justice" transcribed by David Mattock. Sold on fiche: Wilts FHS.
NOTES: Labourer of Calne. Trespass in search of game.
DATE: -- --- 1793-1798
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JOSEPH
CLASS: DIRECTORY ENTRIES REF:
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society Vol.47. Early Trade Directories of Wiltshire by K.H.Rogers.
NOTES: Staymaker in Calne. Ref: P. Barfoot & J. Wilkes Universal British Directory 1793-1798.
DATE: -- --- 1814
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: JOSEPH
CLASS: PETTY SESSIONS REF: WRO/A1/260
SOURCE: Magistrates Courts "Rough Justice" transcribed by David Mattock. Sold on fiche: Wilts FHS.
NOTES: Reported crime at Chilvester Hill Gate, Calne.
DATE: -- --- 1561-1688
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: RICHARD
CLASS: NEWSPAPER/BOOK REF. REF: WRO/G18/1/1
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society vol.7. Calne Guild Stewards' Book 1561-1688 by A.W.Mabbs.
NOTES: (This book is almost entirely of their accounts, but a few other lists are included).
DATE: -- --- 1561-1688
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: WALTER
CLASS: NEWSPAPER/BOOK REF. REF: WRO/G18/1/1
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society vol.7. Calne Guild Stewards' Book 1561-1688 by A.W.Mabbs.
NOTES: (This book is almost entirely of their accounts, but a few other lists are included).
DATE: -- --- 1700 ?
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: WALTER
CLASS: LEGAL MATTERS REF: WRO/D5/10/1/7
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society volume 56. Wiltshire Glebe Terriers 1588-1827. Edit by Steven Hobbs.
NOTES: No date - c.1700. Mentioned in the notes for the parish of Calne.
DATE: -- --- 1793-1798
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: WALTER
CLASS: DIRECTORY ENTRIES REF:
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society Vol.47. Early Trade Directories of Wiltshire by K.H.Rogers.
NOTES: Staymaker in Calne. Ref: P. Barfoot & J. Wilkes Universal British Directory 1793-1798.
DATE: -- --- 1561-1688
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: WILLIAM
CLASS: NEWSPAPER/BOOK REF. REF: WRO/G18/1/1
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society vol.7. Calne Guild Stewards' Book 1561-1688 by A.W.Mabbs.
NOTES: (This book is almost entirely of their accounts, but a few other lists are included).
Friday, 5 January 2007
George Dolman died 1772 Tytherton
2) Varied Index
I checked our Varied Index for later entries for George DOLMAN, and found
just this:
DATE: 26 JUN 1772
SURNAME: DOLMON FORENAME: GEORGE
CLASS: CORONERS REPORT REF: WRO/A5/2/1/
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society Vol.36. Coroners' Bills 1752-1796 by
R.F.Hunnisett.
NOTES: At Tytherton in Chippenham. Killed by a bruise from the shaft of a
waggon.
I checked our Varied Index for later entries for George DOLMAN, and found
just this:
DATE: 26 JUN 1772
SURNAME: DOLMON FORENAME: GEORGE
CLASS: CORONERS REPORT REF: WRO/A5/2/1/
SOURCE: Wilts Record Society Vol.36. Coroners' Bills 1752-1796 by
R.F.Hunnisett.
NOTES: At Tytherton in Chippenham. Killed by a bruise from the shaft of a
waggon.
Bastardy entry WRO/B10/100/2: 1861 March 18
Dear Andy
1) Bastardy entry
No problem, I have extracted the following for you from ref: WRO/B10/100/2:
1861 March 18.
Elizabeth DOLMAN v. George DOLMAN.
Elizabeth DOLMAN swore and sayeth: 'I am a single woman, residing at Stanly
in the parish of Bremhill. I was confined of a male child on 25 Dec last.
George DOLMAN is the father of it. I was living at Bushton last year.
Defendant was living at Stanley. I went home at Lady Day in last year and
stayed a week. We have kept company for 6 years. I met defendant at
Chippenham, on coming home from Chippenham the connection took place. We
were together nearly every day of the week I stayed at home.'
Sarah PEARCE swore and sayeth: 'I live at Stanley in parish of Bremhill, and
am married. A little time before Michaelmas last the defendant was in my
house and I heard him say to my husband and myself in allusion to Elizabeth
DOLMAN. "If she was in the family way he would marry her and she must bide
with her father and he must bide with his, until they could get a place to
live in". In the month of August last the defendant and complainant were at
my house and the defendant said to me "If her money was gone he would let
her have some of his, as long as he had any she should have part of it." I
have seen them have tea together at my mother's house last Lady Day, He
never contracted being the father of Elizabeth DOLMAN's child when taxed
with it.'
Order made.
1862 February 17.
Elizabeth DOLMAN v. DOLMAN.
Elizabeth DOLMAN said that she had had no money since the Thursday after
last Christmas Day.
Defendant says 'I cannot pay, I sometimes earn 2s 6d a day, and sometimes
only 2s a day. I can't pay, and suppose I must go to prison. I have no
goods.'
Committed for 6 weeks.
1) Bastardy entry
No problem, I have extracted the following for you from ref: WRO/B10/100/2:
1861 March 18.
Elizabeth DOLMAN v. George DOLMAN.
Elizabeth DOLMAN swore and sayeth: 'I am a single woman, residing at Stanly
in the parish of Bremhill. I was confined of a male child on 25 Dec last.
George DOLMAN is the father of it. I was living at Bushton last year.
Defendant was living at Stanley. I went home at Lady Day in last year and
stayed a week. We have kept company for 6 years. I met defendant at
Chippenham, on coming home from Chippenham the connection took place. We
were together nearly every day of the week I stayed at home.'
Sarah PEARCE swore and sayeth: 'I live at Stanley in parish of Bremhill, and
am married. A little time before Michaelmas last the defendant was in my
house and I heard him say to my husband and myself in allusion to Elizabeth
DOLMAN. "If she was in the family way he would marry her and she must bide
with her father and he must bide with his, until they could get a place to
live in". In the month of August last the defendant and complainant were at
my house and the defendant said to me "If her money was gone he would let
her have some of his, as long as he had any she should have part of it." I
have seen them have tea together at my mother's house last Lady Day, He
never contracted being the father of Elizabeth DOLMAN's child when taxed
with it.'
Order made.
1862 February 17.
Elizabeth DOLMAN v. DOLMAN.
Elizabeth DOLMAN said that she had had no money since the Thursday after
last Christmas Day.
Defendant says 'I cannot pay, I sometimes earn 2s 6d a day, and sometimes
only 2s a day. I can't pay, and suppose I must go to prison. I have no
goods.'
Committed for 6 weeks.
BASTARDY ORDERS REF: WRO/B10/100/2
Dear Andy
No, this means that Elizabeth DOLMAN fathered a child by George DOLMAN
(keeping it in the family!).
My guess is that they were probably cousins.
The child's name is not given here, but we could probably find this out from
birth or baptism sources.
If you like, I can let you have the full text from this source.
Regards
David
No, this means that Elizabeth DOLMAN fathered a child by George DOLMAN
(keeping it in the family!).
My guess is that they were probably cousins.
The child's name is not given here, but we could probably find this out from
birth or baptism sources.
If you like, I can let you have the full text from this source.
Regards
David
Thursday, 4 January 2007
John Dolman 1766 Cherhill
Dear Andy
I confirm that we have now looked into this query for you.
Looking back on our previous correspondence, the entries that you have
provided, do not appear to have been verified by us, so I will trust that
these are all from a confirmed source.
1) Review
I note that you have this baptism entry:
CHERHILL - Parish Baptism
1766 Jun 09 - John, son of John & Mary DOLMAN
And this marriage entry:
BREMHILL - Parish Marriage
1791 Mar 06 - John DOMAN, to Ann SIMKINS, both of the parish.
Plus this death entry:
Civil Death record, at Stanley, Chippenham
1843 Oct 19 - John DOLMAN, aged 80.
I see that John died before the 1851 census, but was alive in 1841, aged 70
(although ages here are rounded to the nearest 5).
I checked our 1851 census index, and I see that Ann was still alive, aged
80, and living with dau & son-in-law William & Elizabeth CLEVERLY in
Chippenham.
On your tree, you appear to have children for this couple, as follows:
George 1791
Elizabeth 1793
William 1796
Thomas 1800
Jane 1802
James 1805
although no exact dates, or places are given.
2) Marriage search
I searched our Wiltshire Marriage Index, to see if there were any viable
alternative marriages for John DOLMAN.
I found these entries between 1780 and 1815:
DATE: 22 DEC 1787 PLACE: Maiden Bradley by Banns
GROOM: DOLMAN John of this parish
BRIDE: OVER Jane of this parish
DATE: 06 MAR 1791 PLACE: Bremhill
GROOM: DOMAN John of this parish
BRIDE: SIMKINS Ann of this parish
DATE: 27 MAY 1792 PLACE: Lacock
GROOM: DOLMAN John Compton Bassett
BRIDE: NASH Sarah Pewsham
DATE: 26 JAN 1809 PLACE: Westbury
GROOM: DOLEMAN John
BRIDE: HOBBS Ann
DATE: 20 APR 1812 PLACE: Cherhill
GROOM: DOLMAN John
BRIDE: HAWKINS Mary
So, there are a few that could be considered equally alongside the Bremhill
entry, although there is only one marriage to Ann, at the right time to be
yours.
I don't know where your stated children were found, so I can't comment on
this, but it does appear to be a good match.
If you wanted us to search earlier Bremhill records for John DOLMAN, we
could check to see if any trace was found of him earlier than 1766 in this
parish. Otherwise, I think that this is probably correct.
3) Varied Index
I did check our Varied Index, to see if there were any records of the DOLMAN
name in Bremhill, but the only entry I found was this one:
DATE: 18 MAR 1861
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: ELIZABETH
CLASS: BASTARDY ORDERS REF: WRO/B10/100/2
SOURCE: Bastardy Transcription volume 3. Printed by Wilts Family History
Society.
NOTES: Elizabeth DOLMAN spinster of Stanly in Bremhill, by George DOLMAN.
Male child born on 25 Dec. Others mentioned: Sarah PEARCE. More details in
book.
I therefore suspect that the DOLMAN's did not come from this parish.
I did note that I had quite a few other DOLMAN Varied Index entries which
pertained to Cherhill, which I don't think I have provided you with
previously. Let me know if you are interested in these.
4) Conclusion
This does all appear to be satisfactory, and I hope that this was what you
were wanting me to prove.
If this is ok, I will continue with a similar exercise for James DOLMAN
(bapt 1805).
I confirm that we have now looked into this query for you.
Looking back on our previous correspondence, the entries that you have
provided, do not appear to have been verified by us, so I will trust that
these are all from a confirmed source.
1) Review
I note that you have this baptism entry:
CHERHILL - Parish Baptism
1766 Jun 09 - John, son of John & Mary DOLMAN
And this marriage entry:
BREMHILL - Parish Marriage
1791 Mar 06 - John DOMAN, to Ann SIMKINS, both of the parish.
Plus this death entry:
Civil Death record, at Stanley, Chippenham
1843 Oct 19 - John DOLMAN, aged 80.
I see that John died before the 1851 census, but was alive in 1841, aged 70
(although ages here are rounded to the nearest 5).
I checked our 1851 census index, and I see that Ann was still alive, aged
80, and living with dau & son-in-law William & Elizabeth CLEVERLY in
Chippenham.
On your tree, you appear to have children for this couple, as follows:
George 1791
Elizabeth 1793
William 1796
Thomas 1800
Jane 1802
James 1805
although no exact dates, or places are given.
2) Marriage search
I searched our Wiltshire Marriage Index, to see if there were any viable
alternative marriages for John DOLMAN.
I found these entries between 1780 and 1815:
DATE: 22 DEC 1787 PLACE: Maiden Bradley by Banns
GROOM: DOLMAN John of this parish
BRIDE: OVER Jane of this parish
DATE: 06 MAR 1791 PLACE: Bremhill
GROOM: DOMAN John of this parish
BRIDE: SIMKINS Ann of this parish
DATE: 27 MAY 1792 PLACE: Lacock
GROOM: DOLMAN John Compton Bassett
BRIDE: NASH Sarah Pewsham
DATE: 26 JAN 1809 PLACE: Westbury
GROOM: DOLEMAN John
BRIDE: HOBBS Ann
DATE: 20 APR 1812 PLACE: Cherhill
GROOM: DOLMAN John
BRIDE: HAWKINS Mary
So, there are a few that could be considered equally alongside the Bremhill
entry, although there is only one marriage to Ann, at the right time to be
yours.
I don't know where your stated children were found, so I can't comment on
this, but it does appear to be a good match.
If you wanted us to search earlier Bremhill records for John DOLMAN, we
could check to see if any trace was found of him earlier than 1766 in this
parish. Otherwise, I think that this is probably correct.
3) Varied Index
I did check our Varied Index, to see if there were any records of the DOLMAN
name in Bremhill, but the only entry I found was this one:
DATE: 18 MAR 1861
SURNAME: DOLMAN FORENAME: ELIZABETH
CLASS: BASTARDY ORDERS REF: WRO/B10/100/2
SOURCE: Bastardy Transcription volume 3. Printed by Wilts Family History
Society.
NOTES: Elizabeth DOLMAN spinster of Stanly in Bremhill, by George DOLMAN.
Male child born on 25 Dec. Others mentioned: Sarah PEARCE. More details in
book.
I therefore suspect that the DOLMAN's did not come from this parish.
I did note that I had quite a few other DOLMAN Varied Index entries which
pertained to Cherhill, which I don't think I have provided you with
previously. Let me know if you are interested in these.
4) Conclusion
This does all appear to be satisfactory, and I hope that this was what you
were wanting me to prove.
If this is ok, I will continue with a similar exercise for James DOLMAN
(bapt 1805).
Friday, 15 December 2006
William Dolman 1803 Cherhill
Dear Andy
I confirm that we have looked further into these entries, which I recall
were as follows:
CALNE - Parish Baptisms
1802 Sep 12 - William, son of William and Elizabeth DOLMAN, born 3
September.
1803 Dec 28 - William, son of Ann BUTTON, born 4 September, reputed father
is Walter DOLMAN.
We previously searched for infant burials of the above two, without finding
anything in Calne, so I would assume that both may have survived. I
therefore carried out Marriage searches for them, as follows:
1) Marriage search
Looking for William DOLMAN, post-1815, I found the following entries in our
Wiltshire Index:
DATE: 17 FEB 1818 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish
BRIDE: NORRIS Betty
DATE: 03 APR 1823 PLACE: Cherhill by Banns
GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish
BRIDE: POTTOW Ann of this parish
DATE: 15 SEP 1834 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN William Bach of this parish
BRIDE: WHITE Eliza Spin of this parish
DATE: 16 MAY 1836 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN als MILES William Bach of this parish
BRIDE: WALTER Mary Ann Spin of this parish
Our Wiltshire Marriage Index only goes up to 1837, but that should cover all
of the period we would expect for this marriage.
As you can see, only the 1823 entry appears to be the only one that is
relevant, and that's your William anyway.
2) Marriage search
Looking for William BUTTON, post-1815, I noted these entries for BATTON or
BUTTON:
DATE: 01 DEC 1819 PLACE: Homington by Banns
GROOM: BUTTON William of this parish
BRIDE: PRINCE Anne of this parish
Consent of parents.
DATE: 28 JAN 1827 PLACE: Calne
GROOM: BUTTON William of this parish
BRIDE: LAWRENCE Ann of this parish
DATE: 21 APR 1828 PLACE: Marlborough St Peter by Licence
GROOM: BATTEN William Wid Hursborne, Hants.
BRIDE: HOLDWAY Hannah Spin of this parish
DATE: 30 MAY 1831 PLACE: Bradford on Avon
GROOM: BATTEN William Tiverton
BRIDE: HANNY Harriett
DATE: 25 DEC 1832 PLACE: Downton by Banns
GROOM: BATTEN William of this parish
BRIDE: RICHMAN Rebecca of this parish
DATE: 22 OCT 1835 PLACE: Pitton & Farley
GROOM: BATTEN William of this parish
BRIDE: WHITE Eleanor of this parish
Of these, I am sure that the entry in 1827 in Calne, is the William who was
baptised in 1803.
This would make him aged 24 when he was married - just about right, but this
isn't your William.
3) Conclusion
Given the above findings, I am fairly confident that your William is the one
found in Calne 1827, born to William & Elizabeth 1802, even though he later
said that he was born in Cherhill. If his family moved to Cherhill sometime
after the birth, maybe he believed that this was where he was born.
I confirm that we have looked further into these entries, which I recall
were as follows:
CALNE - Parish Baptisms
1802 Sep 12 - William, son of William and Elizabeth DOLMAN, born 3
September.
1803 Dec 28 - William, son of Ann BUTTON, born 4 September, reputed father
is Walter DOLMAN.
We previously searched for infant burials of the above two, without finding
anything in Calne, so I would assume that both may have survived. I
therefore carried out Marriage searches for them, as follows:
1) Marriage search
Looking for William DOLMAN, post-1815, I found the following entries in our
Wiltshire Index:
DATE: 17 FEB 1818 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish
BRIDE: NORRIS Betty
DATE: 03 APR 1823 PLACE: Cherhill by Banns
GROOM: DOLMAN William of this parish
BRIDE: POTTOW Ann of this parish
DATE: 15 SEP 1834 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN William Bach of this parish
BRIDE: WHITE Eliza Spin of this parish
DATE: 16 MAY 1836 PLACE: Maiden Bradley
GROOM: DOLMAN als MILES William Bach of this parish
BRIDE: WALTER Mary Ann Spin of this parish
Our Wiltshire Marriage Index only goes up to 1837, but that should cover all
of the period we would expect for this marriage.
As you can see, only the 1823 entry appears to be the only one that is
relevant, and that's your William anyway.
2) Marriage search
Looking for William BUTTON, post-1815, I noted these entries for BATTON or
BUTTON:
DATE: 01 DEC 1819 PLACE: Homington by Banns
GROOM: BUTTON William of this parish
BRIDE: PRINCE Anne of this parish
Consent of parents.
DATE: 28 JAN 1827 PLACE: Calne
GROOM: BUTTON William of this parish
BRIDE: LAWRENCE Ann of this parish
DATE: 21 APR 1828 PLACE: Marlborough St Peter by Licence
GROOM: BATTEN William Wid Hursborne, Hants.
BRIDE: HOLDWAY Hannah Spin of this parish
DATE: 30 MAY 1831 PLACE: Bradford on Avon
GROOM: BATTEN William Tiverton
BRIDE: HANNY Harriett
DATE: 25 DEC 1832 PLACE: Downton by Banns
GROOM: BATTEN William of this parish
BRIDE: RICHMAN Rebecca of this parish
DATE: 22 OCT 1835 PLACE: Pitton & Farley
GROOM: BATTEN William of this parish
BRIDE: WHITE Eleanor of this parish
Of these, I am sure that the entry in 1827 in Calne, is the William who was
baptised in 1803.
This would make him aged 24 when he was married - just about right, but this
isn't your William.
3) Conclusion
Given the above findings, I am fairly confident that your William is the one
found in Calne 1827, born to William & Elizabeth 1802, even though he later
said that he was born in Cherhill. If his family moved to Cherhill sometime
after the birth, maybe he believed that this was where he was born.
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